probabil o sa ma bag si eu ca musca in lapte ... mai intai de toate ai tinut sa "lamuresti"/enlighten pe ceilalti despre ce inseamna emo ... ok s-a stabilit ca emo provine de la emotional hardcore un gen muzical ... nicidecum un stereotip/gen de imbracaminte/fel de a fi/fel de a gandi/grup de oameni samd ... so i did busted you (si nu am urmarit asta cu tot dinadinsul) pentru ca daca e sa ne luam dupa definitia din articolul postat de tine la inceputul topicului
Te rog nu vorbi in nestiinta de cauza
dupa ce a postat sakura linkurile alea
In primul si in primul rand nu am zis nimic gresit. De ce? Uite de ce:
Fashion and stereotype
Emo is also sometimes associated with a certain fashion. The term "emo" is sometimes stereotyped with tight jeans on males and females alike, long fringe (bangs) brushed to one side of the face or over one or both eyes, dyed black, straight hair, tight t-shirts which often bear the names of rock bands (or other designed shirts), studded belts, belt buckles, canvas sneakers or skate shoes or other black shoes (often old and beaten up) and thick, black horn-rimmed glasses.[14][15][16] Emo fashion has changed with time. Early trends included straight, unparted hair (similar to that of Romulans and Vulcans in Star Trek), tightly fitting sweaters, button-down shirts, and work jackets.[citation needed] This fashion has at times been characterized as a fad.[17]
In recent years, emo, in the popular media, has been associated with a stereotype that includes being emotional, sensitive, shy, introverted, or angsty.[18][19][20] It is also associated with depression, self-injury, and suicide.[21][22]
Criticism
As certain fashion trends and attitudes began to be associated with "emo", stereotypes emerged that created a specific target for criticism. In the early years of the "third wave", the criticism was relatively light-hearted and self-effacing. In ensuing years, the derision increased dramatically. Male fans of emo found themselves hit with homosexual slurs, largely a reflection of the style of dress popular within the "emo scene" and the purported displays of emotion common in the scene. Complaints pointed to the histrionic manner in which the emotions were expressed.[23]
In October of 2003, Punk Planet contributor Jessica Hopper leveled the charge that the "third wave" era of emo was sexist. Hopper argued that where bands such as Jawbox, Jawbreaker and Sunny Day Real Estate had characterized women in such a way that they were not "exclusively defined by their absence or lensed through romantic-specter",[24] contemporary bands approached relationship issues by "damning the girl on the other side ... its woman-induced misery has gone from being descriptive to being prescriptive". Regarding the position of women listening to emo, Hopper went on to note that the music had become "just another forum where women were locked in a stasis of outside observation, observing ourselves through the eyes of others".
Critics of modern emo have argued that there is a tendency toward increasingly generic and homogenized style.[25] Many popular bands have attempted to disassociate themselves with the "emo" tag; some have adopted the genre designation post-hardcore. Despite the criticism, the modern version of emo has maintained mainstream popularity. However, given the disfavor of the term "emo", the future of the genre remains unclear.
Sursa: wikipedia
definitia asta PICA din START mai ales in contextul topicului actual in care se vorbeste despre muzica si nu un despre un stereotip (pe care credeam k il codamni din momentul in care ai inceput topicul acesta) ...
si apoi chiar tu criticai pe cei ce vad in emo un fel de a te aranja samd...
Am deschis acest topic deoarece m-am saturat sa aud ca Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance si alte trupe total pe langa acest gen sunt considerate emo.
M-am saturat de ignoranta celor imbecili care cred k
dak ai o freza gen manga, par drept si vopsit negru, te imbraci in negru si porti 100 de bratari metalice te face emo.Cunosc destui care se imbraca astfel si spun cu o anumita sclipire in ochi ca ei asculta emo pe cand ei asculta pana si Britney Spears.MCR si FOB nu sunt trupe emo.Adevaratele trupe emo sunt I Hate Myself, I Would Set Myself on Fire For You, etc.
Pe cei care inca mai traiesc in propria ignoranta ii invit sa dea o raita pe
http://youdontknowemo.tk/acum probabil o sa imi spui ca rastalmacesc ... sau ca te fac ascultator a la britney ... in nici un caz ... i'm just taking out the facts ... cel care a scris articolul pe care ai ajuns sa il descoperi si sa ii impartasesti parerile acum a criticat pe cei care iau emo a fi un stil de a se imbraca sau purta iar prin topicul asta ai facut acelasi lucru la randul tau (si cred ca pozele comparative din site-ul cu pricina in legatura cum arata un emo kid si cum nu arata un ascultator de muzica emo sunt destul de sugestive ... ca nu exista un stil de imbracaminte anume pt emo nu vad negru in exagerare ... chitaristul nu are piercing - si se pare ca ar canta muzica emo - cum are tipul pe care l-ai intrebat de haine emo, nu vad sa semene prea mult la felul in care se imbraca ... din cate observ eu se imbraca normal, casual, nimic iesit din obisnuit din contra o imbracaminte destul de lejera) ... iar daca emo se refera strict la muzica emo nu ar trebui sa existe confuzii de genu emo-kids si emo-style ... dar din moment ce exista si categoriile astea (asa se pare) probabil ar trebui discutate separat ... da stiu ca sunt rea ... ok just go on and get mad at me ...
iar ca sa ma fac mai inteleasa o sa citez autorul articolului respectiv
YOU CANNOT BE A GENRE => din asta ar trebui sa => ca nu exista emo people
Mall Emo is also a term for any behavior people attach to the term Emo. More bullshit. To be quite frank, if I had a nickel for every time I heard someone call self-abuse “Emo”, I’d feel sorry for the person who said it around me after I used the money to buy a gun.
It’s absolutely foolish to be say that someone’s Emo. Emo is a genre. You cannot be music. Just like nobody is Punk, Goth, or Metal, nobody is Emo. Contrary to popular belief, these genres are just genres. It’s just stupid to connect clothing and behaviors to organized sounds, isn’t it? Of course it is.
BUSTED AGAIN by the very own article u shared ...
asa ca in cele din urma as dori o lamurire ... ce e emo totusi? un stereotip? fel de imbracaminte? freza? un copil cu probleme de personalitate? un hikimorori? no really ... credeam ca lamurisem inca de la inceputul topicului ca emo e un stil muzical si nimic mai mult iar restul fazelor cu imbracaminte neagra, moda, stereotipuri sunt doar o dovada a unor dezinformari, ignoratei, mediocritatii, si/sau inculturi si nu merg mai departe cu enumeratul ca s-ar putea sa fiu mai dura ... iar daca emo nu sunt niste haine (oricum nu haina face pe om -desi traim intr-o societate modista- ... dar uneori poate spune ceva despre omul care o poarta dupa felul in care o poarta ... dar nu totul) atunci atitudinea ta de dinaintea descoperirii articolului viza-vi de emo a fost gresita doar daca nu cumva acum vrei ca emo ca si gen muzical sa coexiste cu emo ca si stereotip samd
si indiferent de parerea unuia sau altuia nu cred ca se cade sa ca vreunul dintre noi sa se uite de sus la cei fatza de care avem impresia ca nu stiu nimic si ar trebui sa se informeze ... si in fond si la urma urmei e un topic de debate nu de cat suntem de corecti si bine informati in care fiecare poate sa spuna ce stia/ce stie/ce crede/ce gandeste/ce ar fi de lamurit ... si apoi cred ca kyo a spus ca minti doar ca sa nu spuna "vezi ca esti dezinformat => ignorant" ca sa citez
"pe cei care inca mai traiesc in propria ignoranta ii invit sa dea o raita pe"
si daca ar fi fost ceva grav garantez ca nu ar fi folosit (si nu ii iau apararea ... putea sa gaseasca alta formulare)
dar dupa cum se spune in "incheiere"
TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS
After reading this, you may wonder, “What about all my friends? Should I tell them what I read?” Of course you should. As your friend, it’s your duty to inform them of their mistakes. Don’t be horrible about it, there’s no true reason to be, unless they won’t shut the hell up about what they think is Emo. Then it’s just fine to tell them to get fucked.
It’s not hard to tell them what Emo is. Just paraphrase what we talk about on the site. Also, feel free to give them our link. We won’t mind. If you feel daring enough, make a mix tape with actual Emo on it. Who knows? They might find bands that they like.
You should never be afraid to tell anybody that they’re wrong. Be it your best friend or some guy on the bus, you should tell people that the information that they have is incorrect. If they persist, just persist right back. Don’t hesitate to be a little bit hostile if they fight you. They’d thank you if they knew the whole truth.
fi siguri ca apreciem faptul ca ne-ai impartasit articolul ... dar asta nu inseamna ca ai sau are vreunul dintre noi dreptul sa priveasca de sus pe ceilalti, chiar daca nu stiu totul ... invatzam si nu e nimic rusinos in a invatza si cred ca si tu ai avut de invatzat din asta ... (si tu ai asociat emo cu imbracaminte si fel de a fi... iar autorul articolului e mai dur decat mine a numit o prostie asocierea emo cu imbracamintea cum o fac unii/si articolul numar 2 sursa wikipedia ... daca greseste wikipedia si revistele de marca nu stiu ... daca greseste youdontknowemo ... nu stiu ... ramane de vazut ... momentan dezbatem ce stim si ce nu stim ... fara sa punem etichete nimanui)